Causes of Asperger's Syndrome

Reality and Myths about Autism Spectrum Disorders

Causes of Asperger's are unclear, but the autism spectrum disorder is certainly not caused by "refrigerator mothers." Genetics appear to cause Asperger's.

The exact causes of Asperger’s syndrome are unknown, although Asperger’s research has identified several predisposing factors. Sometimes referred to as high functioning autism, Asperger’s syndrome is one of the “milder” autism spectrum disorders. Autism spectrum disorders (ASD) such as classic autism and childhood disintegrative disorder produce symptoms that are more severe than Asperger’s symptoms.

Asperger’s symptom severity varies widely from individual to individual, and like other autism spectrum disorders, Asperger’s is a lifelong condition.

Myths of Asperger’s Syndrome: Refrigerator Mothers

Asperger’s syndrome, as an autism spectrum disorder, falls victim to many of the misconceptions that plague autism. In the 1940s the cause of autism was thought to be a cold, aloof “refrigerator mother.” This notion wasn’t just popular misconception: the refrigerator mother was accepted as an autism cause until the 1970s.

Unfortunately, the notion of the refrigerator mother entered popular culture, and the theory of the cold, distant parent is occasionally trotted out as one of the causes of Asperger’s syndrome .

Asperger’s Parenting

Asperger’s symptoms often lead people to dismiss Asperger’s kids as ill mannered, badly behaved, and rude. From this assumption it’s only a quick jump to that most popular of games: Blame the Parents.

Bad parenting does not cause Asperger’s syndrome. If bad parenting, how to explain families which include both Aspies and “neurotypical” siblings? If bad parenting causes Asperger’s syndrome, why would one child be affected but not the other?

Possible Causes of Asperger’s Syndrome

So much for what doesn’t cause Asperger’s. What does? Comparisons of brain activity of Asperger’s and typical kids suggest that Asperger’s syndrome results from abnormal changes in embryonic cells that alter brain structure and thought processes.

All well and good, but what causes the cellular changes in the first place? A genetic cause seems likely. Asperger’s kids often have family members who exhibit Asperger’s-like traits. These traits may not be clinically significant, but resemble Asperger’s behavior enough to suggest a genetic cause.

(As a side note, there’s a theory that parents exhibiting autism-like traits may have inspired the refrigerator mother hypothesis. Parents may have exhibited some of the aloofness and social distance that can occur in autism / Asperger’s).

Asperger’s syndrome has a gender preference: males are four times more likely than girls to develop Asperger’s. This may support the argument for a genetic cause of Asperger’s.

Asperger’s is a complex condition, with individual “Aspies” displaying a wide range of symptom severity. Most researchers believe that a cluster of genes causes Asperger’s, rather than a single Asperger’s gene. It is also possible that environmental factors interact with genetics to trigger Asperger’s.

The Asperger’s “Cure”

Some people hope that determining the cause of Asperger’s syndrome will produce a cure. At present no Asperger’s “cure” exists, and many would say that one is not needed. Asperger’s may well be simply another way of perceiving the world and part of the normal range of human behavior.

Disclaimer: The information contained within this article is for informational purposes only, and is not intended to be a substitute in any way for care and treatment by a qualified health professional.

Resources

Laider, J. (updated September 15, 2004). The “Refrigerator Mother” Hypothesis of Autism.

Neurology Channel. (n.d.). Asperger’s Syndrome.

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Oct 6, 2008 5:21 AM
Guest :
Actually, you are wrong. Bad parenting, pollution, child abuse etc. are the cause of aspergers syndrome. Full stop. I have never heard of top "Jocks" who are truly happy and successful having children with AS. Its always low-income, angry people, people with substance abuse issue et. etc.
often lead people to dismiss Asperger’s kids as ill mannered, badly behaved, and rude. From this assumption it’s only a quick jump to that most popular of games: Blame the Parents.

"Bad parenting does not cause Asperger’s syndrome. If bad parenting, how to explain families which include both Aspies and “neurotypical” siblings? If bad parenting causes Asperger’s syndrome, why would one child be affected but not the other?"

Actually, this argument works in favour of environment/nurture. If it is genetic, why is it that the parent's/gransparents/siblings dont have it?

The idea that "bad parenting" would effect each child the same if just stupid. Further, child abusing parents usually single out a particular child and allow all the family members to target that child.
As one of the world-leaders in child abuse, forbidden truth, and psychohistory studies, I have to inform you that your child has been harmed or abused at some time. The DNA story will not wash with Me. Its so obviously false. The simple fact that AS do not all get brain-scans and DNA tests to diagnose thier condition is proof that it is really an acquired mental disorder.
Oct 17, 2008 7:18 PM
Guest :
Interesting that..
A) You consider yourself as a "world leader in child abuse, forbidden truth, and psychohistory studies" yet I see no name, qualifications etc, to determine who you are. You clearly do not have have a child with AS. I have three wonderful children (one with AS) they come from a good home, where they are very loved and cared for, and we have a very high income etc. So that blows your theory out of the water.

B) It is a well established fact that people who specialize in the fields you mention usually do so because of their own personal experiences.

C) Your anger and comments tell me that it is you have serious issues and I suggest you seek immediate assistance.

D) To all those loving parents out there seeking assistance for their child with AS, keep up the good, somewhat challenging, yet rewarding hard work. The mere fact that you are seeking assistance shows that you care greatly for your child and like me would like to see him (or her) do well in life.

Best Regards,
DC


Nov 17, 2008 11:03 AM
Guest :
Ha!! Thank you for making me giggle a bit. I too have a child with AS, and we have a warm loving family and high income. I happen to teach Special Education high school English- and your grammar, sentence structure and punctuation rival that of a crazed manifesto written by someone who has just blown up a post office. Please see a doctor as soon as possible, something is amiss... with you. Please seek help.
Jan 8, 2009 7:46 AM
Guest :
My 8 year old son has a mild degree of Asperger's Syndrome. He has displayed very peculiar behavior ever since he began experiencing more social activities (i.e. playing with other children regularly). Because I had a very flexible job during his early years, his mother and I spent a great deal of time with him. I don't recall anything that would qualify as abuse, neglect, or any other form of dysfunction. In fact, we have always had a very loving and accepting style of parenting.

The "genetics" arguments above are both inaccurate. Deficient genes from the same parents can show up in one child but be absent in another. Also, the home environment can have very different effects from one sibling to another. Some children are not harmed by family dysfunction to the extent that others are.

Therefore, THE CAUSE of Asperger's Syndrome could be either genetic, environmental, or varying combinations of the two.

The fact is that nobody knows for certain.
Feb 24, 2009 5:54 AM
Guest :
You need to be fired from your job as one of WORLD LEADER's in child abuse, forbidden truth, and pschohistory studies(sounds like maybe you were abused and never got help)!
Seems like maybe you need to a little more RESEARCH on the matter.
It is insulting to actually read something that clearly amplifies that you are TOTALLY uneducated in ASD!
GET A NEW JOB....before you hurt someone.
May 5, 2009 5:45 PM
Guest :
re: Actually, you are wrong. Bad parenting, pollution, child abuse etc.

This wins the most idiotic statement of the day. I love the DNA statement though.. Because from what you are saying, all children would theoretically be all born identical.. and all have identical blood types. Are you aware we are talking about humans not robots here? Do you know anything about DNA?


I am happily married and have been so for the past 10 years we are both high income earners. I am self employed and have all the time in the world for my children. We have a loving family environment and certainly non abusive on any level. Both children go to a private school and are excel in academics. I do not and never will force them into extra curricular activities if they have no desire to.
My husband demonstrates many A.S traits and our children have been diagnosed to be "mild" cases.

Your post leads me to believe you are here to stir up trouble as it a bunch of waffle, highlighting "world leaders".

It is truly disturbing people like you exist out there with these riduclous, backward ideas.

It is actually quite laughable.




May 5, 2009 5:47 PM
Guest :
comment of the year goes to:
"a crazed manifesto written by someone who has just blown up a post office"

My sentiments exactly.
May 15, 2009 7:23 PM
Guest :
I must say I'm appalled at how certain you seem. Just because you "have never heard of" parents who are truly happy and successful having children with AS does not mean a thing statistically. Furthermore, what is "truly happy" and "successful?" Those terms are completely arbitrary, and they presuppose assumptions. I hope you do not go elsewhere preaching these opinions as fact...
May 16, 2009 4:09 PM
Guest :
Actually you are wrong. Perhaps you should do some research before you open your mouth. I have a 9 year old nephew with Aspergers Syndrome and I can assure you that bad parenting, child abuse,substance abuse, low-income and anger had nothing to do with this child having Aspergers. We, as his family, have done everything possible to help this beautiful child adjust as well as possible to his different attitude toward life. I resent the fact that you seem to think that money, bad parenting, or child abuse may be responsible for his behavior. If that were the case, there would be an epidemic of children with aspergers. I think there are probably many more abused children and bad parents out there than autistic children. How do you account for the children that aren't autistic? Were they just lucky?
Jun 30, 2009 11:53 AM
Guest :
My neighbours son has been diagnosed with AS. He has two very dysfunctional parents. Its is very convenient for them to 'blame' AS. Either the diagnosis is wrong or AS is not genetic. Or both. More likely both since folk these days cant wait to blame genes for everything. Personally I dont have the ironing gene which means I dont iron anything. If thats a good enough excuse Ill use it.
Aug 1, 2009 5:47 AM
Guest :
Wow, I agree that bad parenting can lead to many issues, but that last psycho saying that only low income people with substance abuse issues have Aspergers is seriously ignorant, not to mention offensive.

I have never smoked, drank or used illegal drugs. In fact, I only use over the counter drugs once a year or so. My family is the same. I also come from a family of geniuses with freakishly high IQs and high ability as well as above average income. Oh yeah, and I have strong symptoms of Aspergers. I am a member of Mensa and have noticed that a significant number of people with high IQ have Aspergers and none of them match the picture of trashy losers that the person below has described.
Aug 17, 2009 10:31 AM
Guest :
My niece has a mild case of AS. She's from a well-educated, financially stable, loving family. Sometimes she does socially unacceptable things but she IS only 5. Her brother doesn't have it and they're both well-adjusted, kind, loving children. Whoever the first horribly UNqualified person is should go get some help for their lingering issues and do more research before opening their mouth because you're WRONG!!!
Sep 3, 2009 5:23 AM
Guest :
I agree with Guest somewhat. I think Asperger a way for certain children, those that are emotionally weak, of coping with very dominant, inflexible parents that treat children as if they did not have a personality of their own and they have to behave the way they expect. Helicopter parents are an example. Parents that are constantly fuisng about thier kids.
Nov 6, 2009 11:27 PM
Guest :
AS is actually caused by a combo of all these things....


1. Environment
2. Genetics
3. Parenting

Besides AS shouldn't be treated as a disease but as a difference
the notion that it is a disease causes individuals with it to have low self esteem

Nov 7, 2009 4:17 AM
Guest :
I, the Forbidden Truth Seer, have returned to views your pathetic lies. Actually, again you are just parents with motivation to blame other things.
1. If the cause of aspergers in unknown, how can you insist I am wrong?
2. How can you just presume the child is not being abused? How do you know if someone else was not abusing them?
3. Most cold "refrigerator" and "helicopter" mothers actually would insist that they love their child and never abuse him, where in fact the cold reality is ALL parents abuse their children to some degree at some time.
4. Originally, it was claim that cold, distant and abusive mother cause AS. Then, that was dismissed, and no solid reason was given as to why.
5. I have extensively studied these cases and I am a keading expert in societal analysis.
6. Most AS persons will actually state they are abused IF they can do so with a stranger who is an expert as I am.
7. No-one answered to this point : "If AS is genetic, why is there simply a genetic test instead of a dianosis-based detection system"?
8. Just because one child was severly abused and suffered effects and the other siblings did not, in NO WAY suggests that they were not abused.
8b. You have all dishonestly disregarded that point, because you cannot refute it. Why else would you claim that if one child has AS due to abuse, then all must have AS, when that makes no sense?
9. I do NOT mean fianancially rich or upper-class people by successful. I mean emotionally and psychologically sound and genuinely happy outgoing people.
REPLY :
"I agree with Guest somewhat. I think Asperger a way for certain children, those that are emotionally weak, of coping with very dominant, inflexible parents that treat children as if they did not have a personality of their own and they have to behave the way they expect. Helicopter parents are an example. Parents that are constantly fuisng about thier kids."
This is an insightful and accurate statement.
I suppose the child-abuing cowards will now make another stream of attacks against Me to try and discredit Me, rather than focussing on the facts.
Dec 15, 2009 10:55 AM
Guest :
I wish that there was a clear cut way to test for and determine the cause of Asperger's. There usually is a subtle genetic component involved. My father has Asperger's and I have two children, a boy and a girl, with Asperger's even though I don't exhibit any symptoms myself. My children's father doesn't have Asperger's or a family history of it. Instead of trying to assign blame it would be much more productive to help families dealing with this and provide behavioral therapy for the children who have Asperger's. Asperger's is a brain disorder that makes social interactions with other people extremely difficult. There can be other deficits as well that can affect coordination and learning.
Jan 26, 2010 7:42 PM
Guest :
The "Forbidden Truth Seer", do you actually that think you're important enough to captalize "Me"? Do you actually realize how your offensive comments might anger nice and caring parents whose child(ren) just happened to end up having Asperger's Syndrome? Your outrageous comments are unscientific and can NEVER be proved. Do you have children yourself? Perhaps you grew up in a world of child abuse. Most parents LOVE their children. And they would even sacrifice the most valuable things they have to ensure that their child(ren) succeed. People with Asperger's commonly have oversensitive senses. They hear thing four times as loud as normal people do. Can you make people have oversensitive senses? No. It is predetermined in your genes. So is it possible that child abuse will make people have oversensitive senses? No. Perhaps you should just stop hating people and open up to other people's comments. Why do you suppose so many people---so many loving, caring parents---disagreed? Read your own comments and think about it. Do your views have proof or you just made them up? Never discredit somebody else's opinion because your's is different and is lacking scientific proof. Open up to critism. You will need it to be successful.

May God forgive you,
M.L.
Feb 3, 2010 8:04 AM
Guest :
I would like to know what scientific findings can be pointed to by the person who is commenting that environmental and not genetic conditions lead to AS. This person appears to be admitting there is a condition "AS" but appears to be confident that the causality is mistaken amongst researchers. Be reminded that some people on this site may be "tuned in" to some subjects at a higher than average rate. One of mine is science, and being able to make determinations of truth not only based on evidence, but on ommissions in conversation. My AS-like conditions have rendered me rather equipped to call you out, as someone who is being dishonest in his/her comments. No "Doctor" or "Scientist" would dare to attempt to rationalize your "opinion" the way you just attempted to do. So, having said that, you DO NOT work in the field. If you do, you do not have anything more that a certificate or diploma. Higher education, middle education, or not education, if you are working in this field someone is wasting thier money on you.
Feb 11, 2010 5:41 PM
Guest :
It is a medical reality that most individuals with AS or Autism have some digestive disorders as well. This may be the result of a intestinal reaction to certain types of food. AS is not common throughout the world, it is common in modern society. It is a rising disorder which would point towards something environmental and genetic, most likely dietary since it is affecting development within a portion of the body (the mind).

My suggestion is to stay away from gluten based products at the younger ages to see if that might help with the condition.
Feb 11, 2010 10:02 PM
Guest :
My older brother has "aspergers syndrome". And I would have to agree with the first comment in one way or another. I do not have AS and show no signs of having it. My mother is what they may call a "cold" mother. She was not the loving kind of parent most people have. She's very one minded, easily angered. My dad, is very reserved, and would not take a stand against my mother if they disagreed. They never fight, they simply argue because my dad is not being a man. If it's genetics, then it should be more common in my family. It's not. I do not have it, I simply learned from my older brother's mistakes. I was able to watch what was happening, and learned what to and not to do. This is why most siblings to AS have or don't have it.

I feel that if I had "normal" parents, I would have learned certain things that parents should teach there kids. Even though I don't have it, I wasn't taught certain life skills like I'm supposed to have.

My little brother who is 7 years younger than me is showing signs like my older brother. But I watch how my parents teach him. They didn't. Now that he's almost a teen they are trying to teach him. It's too late... And now that he never developed those skills at the proper age, he might be AS too.

So what I'm trying to get at is this.... I will not say genetics are 100% ruled out, but before you parents start accusing the 1st commenter of being wrong and false and stupid, take a deep breath, relax, and actually think about what you might or might not have taught your kids. AS to me, is a preventable "disease". But that's my opinion. You don't ever see the siblings of AS kids talk now do you?

People outside of AS families are somewhat biased, but their points of views should not be rejected. And parents of AS have biased views because simply, they do not want the cause to be bad parenting. That is very acceptable. And parent's points of views should not be rejected either... But both sides should instead of throw mud at each other, acknowledge the fact that YOU MAY BE WRONG. I grew up with an "AS" kid. Maybe you should listen to "AS" siblings more.

Thanks for taking the time to read this. But if you're feeling angry or upset now that you read this.... take a deep breath, and learn to make unbiased decisions on AS kids. The fact that you're a parent or an outsider, you are prone to be biased. So chill. I'm only 20, my older brother is 24 now, and my little brother is almost a teen. So even if I have bad grammar, don't accuse me of it... Listen to what I'm trying to say. Be a good person and listen. If you can't stand of and be a better person and listen to me or my point of view with a level head, who's to say you aren't listening to your own children or neighbors? Everybody has a point of view, and everybody's point of view should be respected and listened to. You don't have to agree with what I'm saying, but at least listen and understand my point of view. Do this with everybody, even the 1st commenter. You don't have to agree with it, but listen to it and understand it.
Feb 24, 2010 5:39 PM
Guest :
Hello. I am currently doing a research assignment for my university degree and i noticed some funny comments about AS being caused by bad parents and abuse. I dont know where this person studied or got there degree but this simply is not true. Anyone who has had the simplest form of biomedical training knows that the most likely cause is genetics. There has been some promising research done that proves that the child is born with AS. AS is a problem in my family. There is three differant branches in our family with AS. Some rich, some poor, some happy, some sad. What is commen though is that they all have AS to some degree.
Mar 19, 2010 3:38 AM
Guest :
dear forbidden truth seer, i firmly believe that
a) you have AS
b) you were abused as a child
c) you have a really bad mother fixation
d) you are one sick puppy
e) you need to get over all of the above!!!
Apr 6, 2010 11:43 PM
Guest :
We know you are wrong because most scientists are fairly certain that while an environmental factor may aid in causing Asperger's Syndrome, it can't cause it without the genetic factor present. The genetic factor is much more important in causing Asperger's than the environmental factor. I'm no parent; I'm the one with the syndrome. I couldn't have ended up in a better place to deter Asperger's, but I have it anyway. It should be noted that an environmental factor isn't necessarily just parenting, but could also be various chemicals that are commonly seen in a household, such as cleaning solvents and food preservatives. It really could be ANYTHING, but if it were due to bad parents, then there would be many more Aspergians than there are now, since, y'know, there are more abused children then diagnosed Aspergians. Nearly 10 TIMES more. And for your argument that there aren't relatives with Asperger's in most cases; in my case, and every person with Asperger's I've met (more than the average person has, less than a registered psychologist has) there is a family member who exhibits some degree of Asperger's symptoms. All genes in the family (aunts, uncles, grandparents, great aunts and uncles, obviously parents, etc), whether displayed in a parent or not, are present in the parent and can be passed to children, so it doesn't really matter if a parent has an ASD or not. Your "expertise" is laughable. I know for a fact that you're as much of an expert as my pet fish, just from your arguments being as equally unfounded as those you attempt to oppose. Regardless, I wish you well, though if you intend to start a psychology practice, I hope a clinically insane patient knocks you through a window. Have a nice day.
Apr 7, 2010 12:05 AM
Guest :
Kid with Asperger's again. Furthermore, I know for a fact that my brain doesn't work the same way as a neurotypical person's because my thought process is totally removed from theirs. I don't asses risk in the same manner, and the "logical" arrangement of thoughts that I have seem totally random to an outsider. I don't respond in social situations in the same way that a neurotypical would; I don't pick up on common cues for social interaction, and I've had to learn and constantly go through these cues while conversing to respond effectively. I'd have to say I've gotten pretty good at it; however, I still have to work a lot harder than someone who naturally "gets it" to simply hold a coherent conversation with a stranger. Abuse can screw someone up mentally, but I've never been abused, and I still have Asperger's. What point are you trying to make anyway? Are you just a mindless troll, here to annoy and discredit and ridicule those who challenge you? Or are you simply a buffoon who thinks he knows something on a hazy subject? Or even just the kind of person that this very article describes in the first two paragraphs? Only a coward would spew such a vile, unfounded conclusion where no one could beat him senseless for it. So are you merely a coward? With this article being as old as it is, I don't expect you to answer; so for now, I'll simply believe that you are all four of these pathetic excuses for being a human.
May 4, 2010 1:05 AM
Guest :
To the first person that commented:

You are a complete nutter who is ignorant and blind.

Sincerely, Me
May 14, 2010 2:36 AM
Guest :
Asperger's Syndrome, is a form of high functioning Autism. It varies in severity but is generally characterized by inhibited development of social skills. It has nothing to do with bad parenting, pollution or child abuse. In studies conducted on fraternal twins in which one of the children was diagnosed with an Autism Spectrum Disorder like Asperger's, there was no evidence that the social environment nor parenting had any impact on the child's medical condition. As one of the few neuropsychoendocrinologist's in Las Vegas, I want to assure parents of Asperger's children that you have done nothing wrong. Asperger's is distinguished from more severe cases of Autism because there are less notable brain anomalies which usually arise during embryonic development. Furthermore, nearly all patients with Autism Spectrum Disorders have low levels of Oxytocin which is a hormone that encourages social interaction, eye contact, interest in others and trusting of other people. This is why research is being conducted in utilizing Oxytocin as a medication to improve the social skills of Autistic patients because in a study conducted on 40 Asperger patients, 20 received a placebo and 20 others were innocculated with nasal Oxytocin spray for several weeks. A virtual team game and a computer visual test tracking eye movement of the participants showed that Autistic patients whose pathological oxytocin deficiency was supplemented with artificial oxytocin showed nearly three times as social interaction in the experiments.
May 23, 2010 9:12 PM
Guest :
I would like to add that the refrigerator mother is a classic cause of AS. It is not the ONLY factor, but a major one. Since AS is not a real disease, but simply a collection of observations of unusual behaviours, there is not one cause and syndrome per se.

Of course poor parents always deny that they are. They say "we are always loving and we take good care of our kid"...making it obvious that they are not honest in their replies. That speak volumes in itself.
Jul 31, 2010 7:34 PM
Guest :
Bad parenting alone probably doesnt cause aspergers, but I'm sure that abuse is harder for these individuals to deal with and can make the condition worse, which may make it seem to some people that abuse is the cause.
Aug 19, 2010 12:04 AM
Guest :
To the 1st person that commented:you sound like my mother when she heard that myself and my daughter were diagnosed with asperegers.
For the simple fact that she herself displays major ASD traces and by blaming my parenting and past substance abuse inevitably took the "blame" of her.Altho "blame" was never mentioned or even hinted from anybody....maybe guilty huh? or doesn't want to admit fault:(...i have a strong bond and open door policy with the private christian school my 8year old attends,meetings every other day with R.T.L.B and Autism NZ,it has taken them a long time to help me hold my head up high and realize my daughter is not cursed because of anything i have done,and i am a wonderful person and a superior mother....and i now know that it wasn't pitty talk from them it is the truth,love life,understand it embrace it,and work magic with what you are blessed to have....peace.xoxoxo
Sep 2, 2010 9:44 AM
Guest :
I think that this article needs to have a little bit more information in it. I also feel that I can't do as much with my research paper because of your lack of information. And by the way, how accurate is your information?
Sep 26, 2010 9:47 AM
Guest :
I have Aspergers and a 160 IQ. My family are caring. My parents don't drink or take drugs. Nor have they troubled anyone. They are retired nurses and they have worked hard all their lives'. I resent the idea that I must be the result of bad parenting. Genetics plays a huge part in Aspergers'. Incidently, I am a qualified general nurse.....
Oct 4, 2010 3:47 PM
Guest :
i have asperger's syndrome and my mom was never a bad parent to me its really genetic and those who have a mental disorder like me don't need to be cured we need to be understood we aren't diseases we r human beings we r actually really smart
Oct 14, 2010 12:07 PM
Guest :
To the world leader, Could we please see some credentials. or atleast a name?
Nov 11, 2010 5:30 PM
Guest :
I have AS and I think you are all right and all wrong, all at the same time. Lots of spelling and grammar mistakes as well, by people who think they supposedly know how it is. There are elements of truth to each statement. I've been through an abusive life but my brother from another mother has not, yet we both have it. My dad has autistic tendancies and he is more likely than not the root cause, as well as mercury in injections, pollution, cheap food, additives in food, television and rediculous social values. If I don't want to make small talk with morons, that is my perogative. If I like to see the whole world as a maths equasion or hide myself away from a society that is based upon greed and anger, then that is my choice too.
Nov 11, 2010 5:33 PM
Guest :
I have AS and I think you are all right and all wrong, all at the same time. Lots of spelling and grammar mistakes as well, by people who think they supposedly know how it is. There are elements of truth to each statement. I've been through an abusive life but my brother from another mother has not, yet we both have it. My dad has autistic tendancies and he is more likely than not the root cause, as well as mercury in injections, pollution, cheap food, additives in food, television and rediculous social values. If I don't want to make small talk with morons, that is my perogative. If I like to see the whole world as a maths equasion or hide myself away from a society that is based upon greed and anger, then that is my choice too.
Nov 16, 2010 9:43 AM
Guest :
my younger brother, and my husband both have AS. my husband has an older brother who does not have AS. they are both (my husband and my brother) males, obviously, and both tend to gravitate toward a more feminine perspective, they both also have ADD and learning disabilities... i think, the problem started with just being different and not being socially accepted, when you aren't accepted socially you will tend to go about it your own way and never really learn how to do it right.... they were both diagnosed with AS at a very young age, now here's the kicker, as soon as they were diagnosed with having some sort of "DISORDER" they began to be treated differently, mostly they were given special treatment because they were thought to not BE ABLE to complete minor tasks... my mother made me do everything and made him do nothing because "he's special" in my opinion he is just lazy, he over reacts when he gets angry, this is possibly the "genetic" problem we are talking about here, but BY NO MEANS is he incapable of carrying in a gallon of milk, the problem is that he doesn't want to, because he is thinking about other things, like playing video games, people with AS have a more difficult time with obsessive thoughts, but most children will say that they can't do chores because they'd rather be playing video games, he will throw an unreasonable fit when asked to do something he doesn't want to do and my parents just gave in to him to make him shut up, would we do that with our normal kids? no! so why should we do it with kids with AS? because it's "too much work to fight harder??? NONSENSE!!!... he is now 21 years old, does absolutely nothing but sit in his dirty clothes and play video games because he was taught that this is all he is capable of and that this is acceptable behavior. my mother went through a bunch of government funded programs which gave her money to buy him the things he "needed' that supposedly normal people didn't need.... i don't see how a person with AS needs electronics and computers and video games and headphones and a few other random things that you can all get from best buy... more than a person who doesn't have AS. so now he's being taught that the less you do for yourself, the more you will get out of it from others, and don't worry about taking care of your stuff because you will just get more of it for free....
now take my husband, he was diagnosed with AS at a young age and told he would never be able to do certain things, just like my brother... my mother in law wanted nothing to do with this diagnosis and simply forced him to do everything he was told he couldn't do, he can now do all those things just fine. because someone dealt with his over reactions and fought to make sure that he could do them... he takes showers every day, he had a college degree and a good job.. HOWEVER. his parents also treated him like the king of egypt giving in to everything he ever wanted because it was just so terrible that he was afflicted with such differences. they even said to me.... "david was raised to be very selfish" " we don't want him to have to take anyone's crap" if david did something naughty, it was always someone else's fault, i've heard plenty of stories about poor innocent children being reprimanded by an angry father because of my husbands admitted wrongdoings.even when we are arguing now about one of my husbands irrational ADD decisions, my father in law will quick jump in and explain to me that men will be men.... i assume most of the male species will choose not to admit when they are wrong, but believe me when i say that he was given waaaay more allowances as a child for everything because he was "not well" He has this unhealthy rivalry with his brother, and equality and "fairness" his idea of "fair" is very inaccurate, his idea of "fair" is david gets everything and everyone else suffers, instead of having it logically explained to him he was given his way and his brother was told "just stop, can't you see he's not well? " if david got it into his head that his brother got more for christmas (like a check that was written to him to pay him back for something bought on his credit card)or that his brother's new computer was paid for by his parents, (which was payed for by his brother, not his parents) he had to get the same gift and unlimited access to the "shared" computer, and if he didn't have his way then he was being 'mistreated" and would throw himself on the floor and of course this was too much for them to handle, so the emotionally sound child was made to sacrifice so that the AS kid didn't scream anymore... my husband was never allowed to spend his own money, they would buy everything for him, he was never told that he was in the wrong it was always someone else's problem. when i met him he was 19, he was in school, he didn't pay his own bills... ok ok that's ok.. but he put all his money in the bank and when he went out for lunch with his friends he expected them to pay his way without any thought to whether or not this was appropriate... he made selfish demands of his parents and everyone else like demanding his parents take him to florida because he's never been there... my brother has this same issue maybe it really is a genetic malfunction but it's hard to tell with the way these parents treat their kids like they are retarded and not capable of understanding... now, he goes and spends five times as much on a meal as i do, and than complains when i buy stuff for the kids that they need, or even groceries at the grocery store because he "doesn't have any money in savings" his idea is to pay the bills and put the rest of the money in savings, and when we need something for the kids or food we call our parents.... am i wrong for thinking this is inappropriate? my husband wore velcro shoes and sweat pants until he was 13 because his mother didn't think he could figure out how to work shoelaces and buttons. if you tell a child they can't do something than they won't, they are children and you are parents, what you tell them is what they know.. UNDERSTAND this....i know some of these problems can be explained by a "disorder" but think about this, my husband's mother was very controlling, she picked out his clothes, his halloween costumes, his movies, his music, decorated his room, he was never allowed to make his own choices... and he doesn't know how to... to this day..... he has severe analytical deficiencies because he never had to figure anything out for himself, i have to do everything for him... something as simple as finding something he misplaced... he will walk from room to room opening drawers and cupboards, randomly with no reason whatsoever and doesn't seem to be able to just use his temporal lobe and THINK about where he had it last... he won't.. i say "stop, think" and he just gets angry and continues to slam cupboards... when he gets the urge to do a project, he just jumps into it, he doesn't ever think things through, one day he was irritated because a closet was messy... so he took everything out of the closet and put it on the living room floor and that was that, the closet is clean... this inability to think has nothing to do with AS but it CAN be explained by the use it or lose it theory... i believe that some people have certain problems with the way they react emotionally to situations that prevent them from leading healthy social lives and sometimes their thoughts can be erratic and it is difficult for them to stay focused, this does not mean that they are retarded, this does not mean that they are incapable... and here is my proof.
when my brother was in HIGH SCHOOL he complained about writing so my mother would sit with him eeeeevery night and hand write his homework for him so he didn't have to because he has "poor coordination" and " you just can' compare yourself to him he has a disability"
my parents went on vacation and i was in charge....for two weeks, i was 8 months pregnant with my daughter. the house was a war zone, everything was a battle, my brother whined and complained, threatened and cried and pouted, but he did all his own homework by himself, he took showers every day, he helped me with chores, and he went up a grade in most of his classes... he called me "the drill sergeant" and my stepfather ( which is a whole different story that can be told to reiterate what the crazy angry abused adult who is obviously living in a fantasy land has said about abusive parents and AS) said that " I should be in charge more often"
i have been with my husband for five years and in those five years his attitude as improved drastically as well as his relationship with his brother and our sister in law, because i am just not going to accept unacceptable behavior, i will fight for normalcy, well, as normal as i can have it, i DO understand that my husband and brother will throw temper tantrums and act like children and i have the patience to deal with this behavior because i know that they struggle with it, but i WILL NOT accept it, and i WILL tell them how i feel about it.... people with AS should be held accountable for their actions just like everyone else...
if your child has AS then i sympathize with you, your life is going to be more difficult because of it, but do what's right for your kids, treat them like they can accomplish anything and they will, don't give them more problems than they need by teaching them to be codependent .
Nov 16, 2010 9:49 AM
Guest :
oh and i just read the comment about the oxytocin trials... THAT IS UNBELIEVABLE.... i was thinking the same thing, because me and my husband get along much better after we have sex... which of course produces oxytocin, and it's not just oh we love each other becuase we had sex it's really helpful with dealing with life's problems as well as bringing us closer together... i have been diagnosed with bi polar disorder and find the only time i am able to LET THINGS GO without getting angry is after i have sex, as well as my husband's abilty to deal with chores and work and communication improves after he has sex or... similar things that produce oxytocin.... i was thinking "i wish they made vitamins with oxytocin becasue that would make my life a lot easier and i'm SOOOOO HAPPPPY that someone else had this same idea so i don't think i'm crazy :D
Nov 19, 2010 7:18 AM
Guest :
As a teenager that displays many of the traits of AS (not diagnosed), I was severely insulted by the comments made by the first person.
When I was younger, bad things happened to be BECAUSE I acted differently, I didn't act differently because of what happened to me.
To the first commentator, please remember that just because you believe one thing doesn't automatically make it true. And though you have a right to state your opinion, you do not have a right to harm someone else because of it. I read your comment and was almost in tears. So please, censor yourself before you say something (I know I have trouble with accidentally being rude, and obviously you do, too.)
Feb 21, 2011 5:58 PM
Daniel Knight :
Damnit.
Feb 21, 2011 6:01 PM
Daniel Knight :
Damnit.
Feb 21, 2011 6:07 PM
Daniel Knight :
Damnit.
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